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Thread: MGP 2011
Post: RE: MGP 2011
| I believe it's because the ACU only recognise AMA racers not WERA or AMRHA racers |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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12-01-2011, 08:04 PM |
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Thread: So they should it was a disgrace
Post: RE: So they should it was a disgrace
| Hi Carolynn,
I'm Glad you agree with my qualifyign rules :-)
I'm guessing that each riders insurance isn't based on a specific mileage or a specific amount of time as this would be impossible to wor... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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10-01-2010, 11:48 PM |
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Thread: So they should it was a disgrace
Post: RE: So they should it was a disgrace
| Hi Roy,
I have a few opinions on the qualifying situation.
I think that the rules should be applied equally to everyone, not one rule for one person and one rule for Guy Martin. It doesn't make any... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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24-12-2009, 09:49 PM |
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Thread: So they should it was a disgrace
Post: RE: So they should it was a disgrace
| Hi Roy,
I agree. I think the Over 500 classics should have been put in with the post classic. Then people with a 750, 500 and 350 could do all 3.
The buying bikes idea did go wrong for BSA becau... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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21-12-2009, 12:40 AM |
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Thread: So they should it was a disgrace
Post: RE: So they should it was a disgrace
| Hi Roy,
I didn't think of the classic racers living on the IOM, that is a good point. However there could be an exception for riders who have no classic races in which to compete. It would not have... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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20-12-2009, 05:40 PM |
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Thread: So they should it was a disgrace
Post: RE: So they should it was a disgrace
| Hi,
Firstly, I'd like to distance myself from Ryan's point regarding reps, I think what he said is totally insensitive. I have prepared bikes for people who have gone on to win their first ever rep ... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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20-12-2009, 12:34 AM |
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Thread: So they should it was a disgrace
Post: RE: So they should it was a disgrace
| By the way I think you'll find Derek Whalley finished 19th in the 2004 lightweight TT which is coincidentally the year he won the Senior Classic MGP. Also should we ban Wattie Brown he raced in the T... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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131,078 |
09-12-2009, 03:12 PM |
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Thread: So they should it was a disgrace
Post: RE: So they should it was a disgrace
| I bet that you cant prove to me mathematically that it's any harder to win a replica now than it was in Bob Heath's heyday when more than 100 people raced regularly. The track is about 2mph faster and... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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131,078 |
04-12-2009, 11:08 PM |
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Thread: So they should it was a disgrace
Post: RE: So they should it was a disgrace
| What is your definition of a TT pot hunter??
Presumably Ryan Farquar falls into this category. But what about people like Olie Linsdell? He supports classic racing in the UK and Ireland all the tim... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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01-12-2009, 09:48 PM |
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Thread: So they should it was a disgrace
Post: RE: So they should it was a disgrace
| Apologies for getting that wrong about Bill's Manx beign a 570, I was only 12 back then!
I don't really believe that any bike is internally identical to the period, however they dont have to be as ... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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131,078 |
11-11-2009, 12:51 AM |
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Thread: So they should it was a disgrace
Post: RE: So they should it was a disgrace
| Alan's lap was following the Paton yes. He said that in lots of places Ryan was holding him up through the corners, but it did give him a tow down some of the straights. How much difference followin... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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10-11-2009, 10:59 AM |
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Thread: So they should it was a disgrace
Post: RE: So they should it was a disgrace
| Well said David. I have a book written in the early 80s with a test and photo of the 60s/early 70s 4 valve 'works' paton and the earlier 2 valve version and if you ask me they look pretty similar to ... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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131,078 |
10-11-2009, 12:45 AM |
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Thread: Programmes are out!
Post: RE: Programmes are out!
| My opinion on this has always been very clear, I like competition and I like the Patons and MVs, but I personally think the huge disparity in speed between a the manxes etc. and the Patons/MVs is down... |
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Will Loder |
Information, Press Releases etc and your comments
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21-08-2009, 04:37 PM |
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Thread: Roger Hurst - 250 Yam
Post: RE: Roger Hurst - 250 Yam
| Paul Coward has a Jim Lee framed TD1C. I don't know it's history though. |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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19-07-2009, 02:27 AM |
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Thread: A little help to get me started
Post: RE: A little help to get me started
| If your engine used reed valves as standard or if you can prove it was a common modification before 1967 then the are allowed (same goes for disc valves). Also If your engine was piston port already ... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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09-03-2009, 05:36 PM |
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Thread: Machine Eligibility Questions.
Post: RE: Machine Eligibility Questions.
| Well, said Doug, If the TT riders were so good, then they could win in the 'fairer' Junior classic, after that race Ryan complaind that Paul Coward's bike was "so, much faster" it was 4mph faster...... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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17-02-2009, 11:04 PM |
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Thread: Machine Eligibility Questions.
Post: RE: Machine Eligibility Questions.
| I've got involved in this debate a stack of times in a load of different threads now......I still think its nice having the TT riders there, Farquar didn't walk the 500 race this year and the Gary Joh... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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14-02-2009, 11:20 PM |
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Thread: Post classic 4 stroke eligibility
Post: RE: Post classic 4 stroke eligibility
| Your correct, scruffy. I misread the next bit that talks about allowing TT riders back into the other manx classes....
Hi Tomcat, from my experience the 750 and 850 weslake engines are a lot more re... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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04-02-2009, 10:13 PM |
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Thread: Post classic 4 stroke eligibility
Post: RE: Post classic 4 stroke eligibility
| As far as I knew they were only letting current TT riders into the Classic and Post Classic races. Which I dont have too much of a problem with......as the classic races have been consistantly domina... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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04-02-2009, 10:48 AM |
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Thread: Post classic 4 stroke eligibility
Post: RE: Post classic 4 stroke eligibility
| If they have 4 valves per cylinder then yes....
Who was consulted on the regs for this class? As far as I can see quite a lot of the established 4 stroke post classic bikes have 4 valves per cylinde... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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03-02-2009, 12:42 PM |
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Thread: Post classic 4 stroke eligibility
Post: Post classic 4 stroke eligibility
| I believe there has been a slight oversight in the 4 stroke rules, in that they allow 4 strokes upto 1981 with only 2 valves per cylinder.....
The 2 valves per cylinder rule is presumably to stop rea... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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02-02-2009, 12:48 PM |
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Thread: dropping of oil
Post: RE: dropping of oil
| I'm not opposed to catch trays however I do question there relevance on bikes with dry sumps (a large number of the classic bikes), if there is an oil leak and the engine continues to run fine then mo... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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09-09-2008, 12:10 AM |
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Thread: Proposed changes to the MGP programme
Post: RE: Proposed changes to the MGP programme
| I think a forgotten era/post classic/unlimited classic race would be a great idea. But I personally can't see how you could run it off the back of the newcomers as I'm pretty sure the top guys would ... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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08-09-2008, 11:47 PM |
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Thread: MV Augusta triple MGP 2008
Post: RE: MV Augusta triple MGP 2008
| I can only just remember Joey riding (was about 5 years old then), but I dont think there was a problem with it.......
I also don't remember much complaint about Bob Jackson riding at the manx and he... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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12-08-2008, 07:28 PM |
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Thread: MV Augusta triple MGP 2008
Post: RE: MV Augusta triple MGP 2008
| A Classic race at the TT would stop the complaints over the proffessional riders, but it would also almost certainly kill the classic races at the manx! As many of the top classic riders would want t... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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12-08-2008, 05:59 PM |
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Thread: MV Augusta triple MGP 2008
Post: RE: MV Augusta triple MGP 2008
| Cargo, If that post is aimed at me then I totally understand what the TT course licence is intended to prove. And to be honest I think it is sensible to take in a reasonable number of events to stay ... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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11-08-2008, 06:21 PM |
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Thread: MV Augusta triple MGP 2008
Post: RE: MV Augusta triple MGP 2008
| I just want to know, is the biggest complaint the TT rider's on the bikes, the eligibility of the bikes themselves or the "factory team" nature of people such as Paton that annoys people the most?
Pr... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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10-08-2008, 11:13 PM |
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Thread: MV Augusta triple MGP 2008
Post: RE: MV Augusta triple MGP 2008
| David, I think if you put every rider on identical bikes Alan Oversby would win! :), but your point is basically correct. ;)
I think the favouites this year are Oversby, look at what he did to palmer... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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10-08-2008, 10:29 AM |
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Thread: MV Augusta triple MGP 2008
Post: RE: MV Augusta triple MGP 2008
| Good post David :)
Anyway:
You dont need to buy a Paton, MV, Super Manx/G50 to have a lot of horsepower! When my dad rode Dave Nourish's weslakes we regularly got through the pit lane speed trap at... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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08-08-2008, 01:09 AM |
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Thread: MV Augusta triple MGP 2008
Post: RE: MV Augusta triple MGP 2008
| Back to the Original topic of this thread Gary Johnson is riding the MV! |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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02-07-2008, 09:56 PM |
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Thread: MV Augusta triple MGP 2008
Post: RE: MV Augusta triple MGP 2008
| Hmmm Chocolates sound good!
Kenny, sorry if you think that I am directly aiming comments at you, because that isn't really my intention. I know that you have won replicas and I also feel that I shou... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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24-06-2008, 12:53 AM |
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Thread: MV Augusta triple MGP 2008
Post: RE: MV Augusta triple MGP 2008
| My main point is that I dont believe it is actually getting any harder to win a replica, infact I would suggest it has got progressively easier to win a replica in the classic races since Bob Heath r... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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23-06-2008, 05:41 PM |
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Thread: MV Augusta triple MGP 2008
Post: RE: MV Augusta triple MGP 2008
| Why would you want to completely overhaul the way replicas are awarded???????????? Surely the reason you all want to win a replica is because they show that you have achieved something!?!?!?!?! If y... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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23-06-2008, 12:12 AM |
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Thread: MV Augusta triple MGP 2008
Post: RE: MV Augusta triple MGP 2008
| In my opinion the MV coming is definately a good thing, it adds to the variety, and its likely to be more of a true replica than a manx norton with 3 less fins on the barrel than they ever had in the ... |
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Will Loder |
Manx Grand Prix & Former Classic TT
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20-06-2008, 11:44 PM |
