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BRITISH MOTORSPORT COULD END DUE TO EU RULING - Malcolm - 22-12-2016 ![]() Joint statement from the Motorcycle Industry Association (MCIA), the Amateur Motor Cycle Association (AMCA) and the Auto-Cycle Union (ACU)
The outcome of a government consultation on a piece of EU insurance legislation could end motorsport in the UK. Yesterday, the Government issued a document for public consultation, which gives an option of implementing the European Court decision known as the ‘Vnuk judgment’. The ruling makes it compulsory for anyone using any form of motorised transport to have third party damage and injury insurance. This will affect all participants in all forms of motorsport. The insurance industry has made it clear to government that third party risks for motorsport activities are uninsurable, not least because of the sheer number of potential vehicle damage claims that would arise. Therefore, if implemented, the Vnuk judgment would wipe out all legal motor and motorcycle sport activity. In the UK, the motorsport industry employs over 50,000 people, generates a total of £11 billion of sales each year and is backed up by a world-leading high performance engineering industry. Motorcycle competition is a popular UK Sport and generates much needed income in rural areas, with over 1.9 million spectators watching around 58,000 riders attend an average of over 4000 off-road and track events each year. These range from junior motocross to the British Superbikes, which would all end without the required insurance under the ECJ ruling.* MCIA, ACU and AMCA call on the government to exempt motor and motorcycle sport from any changes to insurance law which arise from the ECJ judgment. While the UK remains in the EU, even a temporary implementation of the ruling, as suggested by the Department for Transport in its consultation document, would be fatally damaging to what is an important industry and net contributor to the UK economy. Speaking for the ACU, AMCA and MCIA, Steve Kenward, CEO of MCIA says: “At a stroke, this would wipe out a successful industry and all the jobs that go with it, as well as eliminating a popular leisure pursuit for 1.9 million people, along with the boost that this gives to both local and national economies. “If the Government implements the Vnuk judgment un-amended, British motorcycle sport would end in the UK. Given that we are coming out of the EU, we are astonished that the Government is even considering an option to implement Vnuk. We call on Ministers to end uncertainty and put a stop to Vnuk in the UK.” Background: The Vnuk judgment imposes compulsory third party injury and damage insurance to all vehicles of any kind when used on any type of land. As well as affecting all motorsport vehicles, it could affect electric bicycles, sit-on lawnmowers, golf buggies, mobility scooters and even uninsured vehicles parked on private property under the Statutory Off-Road Notification scheme. The ruling stems from a case involving a Slovenian farm worker, who was hurt falling from a ladder, which was hit by a reversing tractor. · You can read the consultation document here: https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/motor-insurance-consideration-of-the-vnuk-judgment · The original judgement arises from Damijan Vnuk v Zavarovalnica Triglav C-162/13. See: http://curia.europa.eu/juris/liste.jsf?num=C-162/13&language=EN · *Figures come from MCIA industry commissioned report. For additional information please contact Steve Muir - email press@mcia.co.uk RE: BRITISH MOTORSPORT COULD END DUE TO EU RULING - warrior - 22-12-2016 Bonkers!! Hopefully they'll get article 50 triggered in time to prevent this. Just imagine, you could bet your life that racing events would still happen, they would simply be driven underground, dangerous illegal get-togethers with no safety precautions would be the outcome. RE: BRITISH MOTORSPORT COULD END DUE TO EU RULING - eman1948 - 22-12-2016 It probably only applies to this country, the French and the rest of Europe do what they like. RE: BRITISH MOTORSPORT COULD END DUE TO EU RULING - scaramanga - 22-12-2016 and as almost all motorsport is on private ground 3rd party insurance probably wouldnt pay out anyway RE: BRITISH MOTORSPORT COULD END DUE TO EU RULING - cregnybaa - 23-12-2016 Would it not be possible for one of the more educated ones amongst us to draw a letter up that we could print off and sign and hand it in to our local MP. ![]() RE: BRITISH MOTORSPORT COULD END DUE TO EU RULING - Malcolm - 23-12-2016 Saving UK Motorsport
A Petition related to this matter has been raised, Petitioning Secretary of State for Transport The Rt. Hon. Chris Grayling
The Petition can be found HERE for you to sign
RE: BRITISH MOTORSPORT COULD END DUE TO EU RULING - bsa499 - 24-12-2016 As far as I'm aware the Isle of Man isn't a member of the EU. However this ruling could have a disproportionate impact on the EU as a whole and the UK in particular. I voted out and the sooner the better. RE: BRITISH MOTORSPORT COULD END DUE TO EU RULING - Malcolm - 24-12-2016 IOM Riders in IOM held events should be ok, (apart from the TT and the Manx GP), as the IOM is not an EU member. However, if this does come in, the effect on IOM held events could well be a great many less entrants from the UK and Europe generally. Where the TT and Manx are concerned, EU based riders may well have a hell of a time trying to get in sufficient track meetings experience without incurring a lot of added expense, in order to thereby obtain their Mountain Licence. Conversely, Manx Riders may well not be able to ride in EU based events, if they do not provide proof of the required Insurance cover in order to have entry granted for any meetings held in Europe !!! Sign the petition and hope that Mr Grayling pulls his finger out and does something about this. RE: BRITISH MOTORSPORT COULD END DUE TO EU RULING - badlyoverdrawnboy - 24-12-2016 (24-12-2016, 01:01 PM)Malcolm Wrote: IOM Riders in IOM held events should be ok, (apart from the TT and the Manx GP), as the IOM is not an EU member. Calm down dears - its only the EU!! They know its a cock-up and they are going to urgently make changes as they recognise it is a mistake, remember that F1 and motogp plus most other top level offroad motorsport is run by european organizations and global corporations who actually pull the strings in Brussells. The uk government is consulting on what to do if necessary and there is a consultation document which spells out the options - the correct answer is option 3 , I think, which basically confines insurance to be needed on the road basically and thats the one we need them to aim at - I think thats their favourite as well. Of course if Brussels messes up a newly free UK would, in effect, become the IOM to Europe and we would be a mecca for all the petrol heads in the EU - we'd have to stage about 7 'San Marino GPs' to keep Bernie in Sanatogen tho. So sign the petition and fill out the consultation and hopefully we'll be free of being ruled by foreign numties soon anyway. RE: BRITISH MOTORSPORT COULD END DUE TO EU RULING - Malcolm - 05-01-2017 Boris Johnson brands 'Vnuk' "insane"
Writing in 'The Telegraph' over the weekend, Boris Johnson MP has argued that the Vnuk ruling on compulsory motor insurance for any mechanically propelled vehicle is "insane".
In a striking attack against the European Court of Justice, the Foreign Secretary defends the right of "every free-born Brit to pootle blissfully on his own quad bike on his own private land" in his unique characteristic style. Despite the strong opposition to the 'Vnuk' ruling, while the United Kingdom remains a member of the European Union, HM Government is bound to implement the Directive which will affect motorsport across the country. We are asking that HM Government under no circumstances implements the 'Vnuk' judgement in a way that encompasses vehicles involved in motor and motorcycle sport activities. You can help us by sharing the petition amongst your friends, family and fellow motorsport enthusiasts! Yours in sport, Tristan Robinson Dan Summers Fight 'Vnuk'
RE: BRITISH MOTORSPORT COULD END DUE TO EU RULING - Malcolm - 12-01-2017 ![]() ACU supports the Fight ‘Vnuk’ campaign
12 JAN 2017 — The Auto-Cycle Union, as the governing body of motorcycle sport, are working to fight the ‘Vnuk' judgement which, if implemented in full, could effectively end motorcycle sport activity.
It is clear to see from the Government Impact Assessment that "when compulsory competitor-to-competitor third party liability insurance was introduced in Finland it effectively ended grassroots motorsport in the country because this cost became prohibitive for the amateur motorsport enthusiast". John Collins, Chairman of the ACU said; “It’s really important that we get as many people to sign the petition as possible. The ACU will be responding to the Government consultation on behalf of its members and the more people who can get behind this campaign, the better"
Be sure to share the petition amongst your friends and family. Short link here: http://bit.ly/2i6Cgsf Yours in sport, Tristan Robinson Dan Summers Fight 'Vnuk' http://www.fightvnuk.co.uk |