OK guys, I AM getting old, so I wouldn't be offended,and Hilary R, I don't know about being more knowledgeable!Thanks Cargo.I haven't marshalled since the accident at Joey's,as I have mostly been confined to a wheelchair.I also haven't heard about the Ramsey marshals refusing to turn out early, but quite frankly, I wouldn't either.The whole scenario should have been thought about ages ago.