Should bikes race in the wet ?
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RE: Should bikes race in the wet ?
(06-09-2011, 07:14 AM)ammo Wrote:
(05-09-2011, 11:17 PM)George Wrote:
(05-09-2011, 10:08 PM)Jeff Kirby Wrote: George

I don't get involved with arguments about regulations but you owe Larry an apology!


APPENDIX I - APPLICABLE TO ALL MACHINES
1 TYRES
Owing to variations in weather conditions which can occur on the TT Course and in the interests of safety, only tyres having a moulded tread pattern will be permitted. No additional cutting of moulded tyres will be permitted. No slicks, cut or uncut, will be allowed. Metal valve caps (not extractor type) must be fitted. Valves must be of the short stub stem type.



APPENDIX II - APPLICABLE TO CLASSIC & FORMULA CLASSIC MACHINES ONLY

5 Tyres
No hand cut slicks or wet weather tyres will be permitted. Maximum tyre width, as stated on the manufacturer’s specification sheet, shall be 4.50” for Classic machines.
Tyres must be fitted with inner tubes.
Approved rear tyres for 500 cc machines are Avon AM22, Dunlop KR 124, KR124A and KR108. Other makes of tyre are acceptable providing the maximum width does not exceed 4.50” (114mm).

Full wets have never been allowed on Classic machines because they were not available during the period.

Jeff Kirby

Jeff, if this is the case then in needs clarification in the Technical department as riders have been told NO full wets ( rider had to remove them outside scrutinneering this year), The race service vans dont even carry them now at the MGP. Larry made a statement that a Pireli full wet tyre would do four laps in the Dry, this is utter tosh at the speeds we do, lucky to get one lap.
(05-09-2011, 10:54 PM)larryd Wrote:
(05-09-2011, 10:08 PM)Jeff Kirby Wrote: George

I don't get involved with arguments about regulations but you owe Larry an apology!


APPENDIX I - APPLICABLE TO ALL MACHINES
1 TYRES
Owing to variations in weather conditions which can occur on the TT Course and in the interests of safety, only tyres having a moulded tread pattern will be permitted. No additional cutting of moulded tyres will be permitted. No slicks, cut or uncut, will be allowed. Metal valve caps (not extractor type) must be fitted. Valves must be of the short stub stem type.



APPENDIX II - APPLICABLE TO CLASSIC & FORMULA CLASSIC MACHINES ONLY

5 Tyres
No hand cut slicks or wet weather tyres will be permitted. Maximum tyre width, as stated on the manufacturer’s specification sheet, shall be 4.50” for Classic machines.
Tyres must be fitted with inner tubes.
Approved rear tyres for 500 cc machines are Avon AM22, Dunlop KR 124, KR124A and KR108. Other makes of tyre are acceptable providing the maximum width does not exceed 4.50” (114mm).

Full wets have never been allowed on Classic machines because they were not available during the period.

Jeff Kirby

Thank you Jeff - some of us can read !!

Angel

What is in the regs is not always kept to, we have been stoped from using full wets but allowed Pireli inters (wet).Could you do 4 laps on one set of wets at an average of over 115mph.

Another question, is a race at the MGP ever declared a wet race????

If youve been stopped from using full wets then perhaps you should point out what it says in the regs to whoever is trying to stop you, but then, when you dont even know the rules yourself I dont think youd be able to put up a valid argument, do you? LOL As for me, Id much rather ride when its "fecking wet" than when its just damp patches any day, and Id much rather ride in the wet than "winds gusting to force 8" (ie a bloody gale )as we did in the first Classic race in 1983!! lol


ammo

Larry if you had been at the presentation night you would have heard what the top riders had said about the use of tyres in the conditions raced.....

Still waiting to hear how you can race 4 laps at the front in dry conditions modern supersprt bike using full wet tyres, so are the rest of the paddock with bated breath
06-09-2011, 12:23 PM
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Messages In This Thread
Should bikes race in the wet ? - by Malcolm - 02-09-2011, 02:48 AM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 02-09-2011, 01:04 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by larryd - 02-09-2011, 10:23 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 03-09-2011, 09:01 AM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by Manx Mist - 03-09-2011, 06:31 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 03-09-2011, 10:30 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by Manx Mist - 03-09-2011, 11:13 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 03-09-2011, 11:39 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by ammo - 04-09-2011, 06:18 AM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 04-09-2011, 01:04 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by larryd - 05-09-2011, 01:22 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 05-09-2011, 07:40 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by larryd - 05-09-2011, 10:54 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 05-09-2011, 11:17 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by ammo - 06-09-2011, 07:14 AM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 06-09-2011, 12:23 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 06-09-2011, 10:18 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 07-09-2011, 12:08 AM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by tripod - 06-09-2011, 11:04 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by Rich - 07-09-2011, 10:21 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by Lee - 09-09-2011, 01:03 AM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by ade! - 09-09-2011, 09:48 AM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by tripod - 09-09-2011, 12:50 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by ade! - 09-09-2011, 12:52 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 09-09-2011, 03:26 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by tripod - 09-09-2011, 05:29 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 09-09-2011, 07:16 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by pat slinn - 10-09-2011, 12:23 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by ade! - 09-09-2011, 08:21 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by larryd - 09-09-2011, 11:30 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 10-09-2011, 11:34 AM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by larryd - 10-09-2011, 05:51 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 10-09-2011, 07:00 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by Malcolm - 11-09-2011, 06:08 AM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by ade! - 11-09-2011, 10:29 AM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 11-09-2011, 02:20 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by tripod - 11-09-2011, 02:50 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 11-09-2011, 06:19 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by Jo Rowe - 12-09-2011, 12:48 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 12-09-2011, 05:00 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by tripod - 12-09-2011, 09:17 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by Jo Rowe - 12-09-2011, 09:02 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by Jo Rowe - 12-09-2011, 09:24 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 12-09-2011, 09:53 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by tripod - 12-09-2011, 11:07 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by ade! - 12-09-2011, 10:07 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by Gstarron - 12-09-2011, 11:01 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 12-09-2011, 11:17 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 13-09-2011, 05:14 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by ade! - 15-09-2011, 12:44 AM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by ammo - 17-09-2011, 03:55 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by Gstarron - 18-09-2011, 06:38 PM



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