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RE: TT World Series
(23-01-2015, 03:47 PM)warrior Wrote: What I don't understand is why they would spend circa £200K on a feasibility study, and then when told it was feasible give it to someone else to do?

Surely it would have been better to firstly offer a promoter the chance to run a TT world series if they felt it would work, and then let the promoter do their own feasibility study if they wished, as part of the deal?

we need to recognize that all this is taking place in a parallel universe inhabited by DED, some politicians and some marketing people they have their own language and standards and live in a land where whatever you can get put in a report must be true and where, if the outcome you want is at odds with reality, you hire consultants in to write it  so that 1) you don't have to sully your professional reputation and 2) you have someone else to blame.

Nobody with any knowledge of the TT or world motorsport as it stands at the moment could possibly believe that this had any legs for all sorts of reasons. Its very unlikely that there are enough roads circuits, particularly in the southern hemisphere, suitable for any high level championship. Its more likely that some of the ultra boring F1 circuits would be used as on the face of it some of the states such as Dubai etc are loaded and want publicity. There is a desperate lack of sponsorship globally as can be seen from F1, motogp and wsb and TV money in motorsport is notorious for not trickling doen to the teams - ask caterham etc one of the reasons why the TT seeding has been introduced so that the 'top' teams get all the air time for their sponsors.

Can't see that many of the existing organisers will want to run a series which would potentially dilute their existing offerings' revenue potential on the same tracks as they already use, we all know how tight the calender is already. And why would a state government pay to use the 'TT world series' name for another event when they already have a motogp or wsb round and the whole point of the 'Brand' is to bring attention to the IOM rather than the host country as far as I am aware all the national government backing for motorsport everywhere is to boost that countrys profile not a rock in the irish sea.

Few of the existing teams and riders are in a position to mount any meaningful attack on a worldwide series even if they were paid, probably about 10 of the teams have the infrastructure to participate and about the same number of the current riders could if paid, remember they are all busy working as truck mechanics and the like! The series would depend on local wildcards who would almost certainly wallop the road racers on their home turf and to some extent it probably explains why PP has, for the last few years, being trying to bring BSB riders straight in rather than let young road racers work their way up through the manx etc.
 
The biigest factor though is that the event with its unique atmosphere and history are so different to anything else that there just isn't any synergy with any other race (even the fact thats is not really a race!).

I personallly think that this is all a cover to put the TT, which makes a fair profit, into the hands of private individuals - the IOM gov arent renown for getting good value and my prediction is that to encourage a private operator - lets call them DED2 Ltd to take on the risk/cost of promoting the world series the contact will be priced attractively, TTWS will be a no go and DED2 will be left with the TT and classic but as a private company they will have no obligation to to the manx and it will die. Even the island gov will realize that DED would now have about 4 too many staff so expect the following - one or two of them will try and busy themselves with other sports - manx rally, cycling festivals (oh yeh they are already on that!) and some, having spent 2016 'working closely'  with the new operator will take huge payoffs and start the next day on enhanced terms.

God knows how many of the 90 or so who line up in June will have actually competed in the other rounds but if you allow for accidents and the expense it wouldn't surprise me if several of the front runners fall by the wayside and that the series is won by a short circuit/wsb rider who doesn't actually compete at the TT.

Finally, once they have moneterized the brand I'm not sure how many of the volunteers like marshalls etc will be willing to
23-01-2015, 05:40 PM
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TT World Series - by panman - 21-01-2015, 09:48 AM
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RE: TT World Series - by c iom tt - 21-01-2015, 10:48 PM
RE: TT World Series - by larryd - 22-01-2015, 01:00 AM
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RE: TT World Series - by BenjiesDad - 22-01-2015, 04:11 PM
RE: TT World Series - by Geekay - 22-01-2015, 08:04 PM
RE: TT World Series - by c iom tt - 22-01-2015, 08:07 PM
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RE: TT World Series - by captainsparkledotcom - 22-01-2015, 10:17 PM
RE: TT World Series - by panman - 22-01-2015, 11:08 PM
RE: TT World Series - by chris - 23-01-2015, 12:37 AM
RE: TT World Series - by larryd - 23-01-2015, 12:51 AM
RE: TT World Series - by Malcolm - 23-01-2015, 12:11 PM
RE: TT World Series - by c iom tt - 23-01-2015, 02:01 PM
RE: TT World Series - by warrior - 23-01-2015, 03:47 PM
RE: TT World Series - by badlyoverdrawnboy - 23-01-2015, 05:40 PM
RE: TT World Series - by Kursaal Flyer - 23-01-2015, 04:59 PM
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RE: TT World Series - by Steady the Edward - 27-01-2015, 04:41 PM
RE: TT World Series - by Dougboy - 27-01-2015, 05:26 PM
RE: TT World Series - by c iom tt - 27-01-2015, 12:02 PM
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